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送交者: eachus 2011月03月11日20:24:27 于 [世界股票论坛] 发送悄悄话
回  答: eachut兄,想听听你的高见. biomed 于 2011-03-11 09:36:24
最近的坏消息不是全假的,
"good lies have 30% fact!" 
你看Evengreen 和 Energy Conversion 两家公司快破产了。
FSLR SOL 两家公司营收不达标, SPWRA 第一季度营收减半,报亏。
虽然多数是老美和薄片太阳能。  但他们也说出点道理来。

我说他“lies”,那里是70%假的?  太阳能现在有3个特点。
1) Oversupply
2) Over capacity
3)  Supply shortage

花二姐的假就假在把第三个特点干掉。 把有光有暗变全黑!
太阳能分工分上游(硅料polysilicon), 中游(硅片),下游(太阳板)
2011年地太阳能需求是20GW,
下游(太阳板) 的产能 是30GW,  === Overcapacity,
 中游(硅片)的产能 是25GW,  === Overcapacity,
上游(硅料polysilicon) 产能 是18GW === Supply shortage

没有硅料没法 中游的(硅片),所以硅片的产量只有18GW。
下游(太阳板) 是在等饭吃。 谁有硅料谁是赢家。
硅料价钱由第四季度$70涨到今天$110,Oversupply是卖不出这价钱的。 
每天LDK门前有一大堆人,买到LDK的硅片唱着歌回家,买不到就在门口骂街!
用LDK 的财长的话 “We are very, very busy and we are shipping every wafer we can make.” 注意,我没改过! 用我的话:“根本没法跟上需求,只有涨价了”。 
 

(10 是 量非常大,  1 是量非常小)
Company ......... 硅料产能 ........ 硅片产能 ...... 下游(太阳板)
GCL _________ 10 __________ 8 __________ 0
LDK _________ 5 ___________ 10 _________ 1
YGE _________ 2 ___________ 2 __________ 8
STP __________ 0 ___________ 1 _________ 10
SOL __________ 1 ___________ 2 _________1
TSL __________ 2 ___________ 3 _________ 6
JASO _________ 1 ___________ 2 _________ 6 

LDK还有一个好处, 2006年已经硅片是全球第一。 他连一公斤硅料没法生产。
靠的是进口, LDK有长期单。 其他YGE,SOL买不到。 现在台湾人去买,
单子已经卖到2013年, 2011年没硅料, 2012年硅料也卖完了。 

用LDK 的财长的话 “我们长单进口价55块, 硅料自己用。 自己的生产成本38块,用不完卖一半,80块一公斤。”  注意,我有最新的LDK 财长演讲全文。 

最后, 
LDK 一个季度赚$1.30 到 $1.50 
LDK 股价 $10.60
LDK 增长 150%  

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LDK said:
 
We are very, very busy and we are shipping every wafer we can make.
 
In Q1 today, we are experiencing poly more than $80/kg. So by investing $2 billion in the polysilicon manufacturing, which allow LDK to save our cost, at end of this year will be $30 to $32/kg.
 
And those wafer contracts, if we add them together, the backlog was such as that require above 3.6 gigawatt. So we build the company's capacity to meet growth, and this will maintain the market share in a long run.
 
And about May or June, end of Q2, we will see the production commence in this 1 gigawatt, which will bring LDK to about 1.2 gigawatts of cell manufacturing.
 
Motech, Gintech, Neo Solar Power, that's NSP, Solartech and E-Ton Solar. That's our top five accounts from Taiwan. In Japan, we have names like Sumitomo, like Sharp, like Tosera. In Korea,
we have three very big names, start with Hyundai Heavy Industries, Samsung, they are coming also very aggressive and also ALG.
 
And our wafer ASP size is fairly stable and now still running about $0.85 to $0.90/w (costs is 0.59/w).
(Average Selling Price)
 
We are working on the third 5,000 train very, very diligently, which we expect about in three months, we're going to bring another 5,000 tons into place, which will make LDK by the end of the year go to 18,000. And I believe that's going to rank up to number five in the worldwide rankings.
 
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** and all those names from their top 5 customers have been on wires alot lately saying they can not meet demand....
 
**  good points also when he was explaining why LDK's ASPs are higher than other companies'.
 
 
 
LDK poly production:
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1) LDK had a small plant (1,000 ton), will upgrade to 3,000 ton/year  by Jun-2011.
2) LDK has a new plant in location (Ma-Hong).
    production line #1 (call train 1) 5,000 ton/year started production in early 2010. is in full production.  
    production line #2 (call train 2) 5,000 ton/year started production in Q3 2010. is in full production since Dec-2010.  
    production line #3 (call train 3) 5,000 ton/year will complete equipment installation soon,
    will started production in Q3 2011. in full production on  Q4-2011.  
   
LDK also import the semi-conduction waste(broken semi wafer, wafer waste).
process those wafer into solar grade poly silicon. 
 


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