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美国居民怒斥方舟子的暴力骚扰
送交者:  2010年09月29日21:23:56 于 [世界时事论坛] 发送悄悄话
就肖传国案件和方肖冲突,北美一位网友介绍了一个美国和西欧北欧等西方国家居民为主的网站论坛的记录,说那些记录提供了肖传国案件发生的海外情节线索,应该值得关注。

按照介绍,去看了看。那个网站论坛叫“Spina Bifida Connection /Support Forum”,主要是为患有脊柱疾病的少儿的父母开设的(当然也有些成年人患者),目的是让父母们彼此交流分享为孩子们治疗和日常保养的经验,以便能帮助孩子们有更多的恢复健康的机会。

大概是属于业务范围吧,肖传国成了那个论坛的偶尔访客。落实美国NIH-资助的相关科研项目有了新发展,美国相关医院科室的主任发文介绍了肖某手术,而且,除美国和南美之外,英国、丹麦、芬兰、澳大利亚、印度、韩国等同行医院也在开始或即将开始肖某手术科研。于是,肖传国春风得意,四月份,他到那个论坛发了帖子通知各位好消息。(附件一)。

几乎是肖传国走到哪里,方舟子就跟到那里对肖某搞造谣诽谤,那个论坛也不例外。美国时间08月19日清晨05点28分(绝大多数美国居民酣睡之时),那里出现了方舟子用另外笔名马甲出现(简称方舟子,下同)、对肖传国搞的所谓“学术打假”的指控,用几乎是刷屏的方式、对肖某和肖某所在医院搞起了恶毒的诽谤攻击,说肖传国“学术造假”。(附件二,#1)。

美国也是人间社会,也有网媒暴力,然而,在父母抚养孩子的经验交流平台,极少甚至就没有网媒暴力现象;那里发生再厉害的见解对抗,也象是邻居下午茶聊天一样,让人充分感到父母的爱和家庭温暖。再说,那网站论坛不是学术平台,更不是接受举报的执法机构的媒体平台,因而,那里突然出现方舟子对肖传国搞的野蛮暴力的“打假”攻击和本应去执法机关的指控,那情景就如同西方旧俗话提到中国人所说的“一头野牛闯进了瓷器店”(意思是野蛮暴力)一样,让人感到很不安全。

稍后,一位来自南非和显然多少知情的平台监管发帖指明:方舟子和肖传国有长期个人恩怨,请各位看到方舟子的指控的时候,要想到这一点。(附件二,#2)。

第二天,20日早晨,一位来自爱尔兰的客户说:一个人(肖传国)努力试图发现发明新办法治病救人,却受到一些人要把人打死的攻击,这让我感到沮丧悲哀。任何医术都有风险,就让医生们决定哪个手术对他们的哪些个体病人更适用吧。(附件二,#5)。

于是,方舟子在该平台搞起了更野蛮的对肖传国的恶毒攻击、甚至对肖某所在医院及其负责人也搞起了恶毒攻击。

显然,有位家长客户对方某搞的暴力骚扰很是看不过去了,24日发帖说:三年前,我的女儿接受过肖某手术,虽然还没有完全痊愈,但健康情况得到明显改善。我知道,有两名患者接受该手术获得成功。我不明白,一个医生在想方设法地帮助患者摆脱疾病痛苦,为什么要攻击他和跟他过不去。(附件二,#12)。

又于是,方舟子对那家长搞起了恶毒攻击,奚落他(她)及其孩子,为攻击肖某而对一个孩子搞起了暴力骚扰;然后,再次用刷屏式对肖和肖某所在医院及负责人搞起了诽谤式的攻击。

孩子是所有父母的最爱、是全人类成年人为之可以牺牲自己生命也要保护的人群。在美国社会,对孩子的任何野蛮行为都是最不能容忍的暴力行为。面对方舟子的恶行表现,该平台所有人出面谴责方舟子行为、严肃地要求方舟子行为表现要文明些,并为平台公平而要求方舟子象肖传国一样公开透明、譬如公开说明自己到底是谁。(附件二,#17)。

方舟子拒绝公开,理由是:洛杉矶时报23日报道,记者因组织调查肖传国“学术造假”而遭到毒打。如果肖传国要起诉,可以通过我们的代表找到我们(方某)。(附件二,#19)。

洛杉矶时报23日报道的对象,是勾结方舟子而专门对肖传国搞所谓“学术打假”的《财经》杂志记者方玄昌。在回答采访中,方玄昌的引导倾向十分明显:[1] 在中国,记者挨打是普遍现象。譬如,方玄昌对洛杉矶时报说:“在中国,记者被打是被政府骚扰更厉害的骚扰”;[2] 肖传国因为方舟子“打假”没当上院士、所以用暴力搞打击报复。

值得注意的是:方玄昌的第一点描述,很能得到某些西方媒体的欢心:中国没新闻自由。洛杉矶时报23日报道就方玄昌陈述而展开的评述,也确实就是那样展开的,且把中国当局作为抨击对象。争得那种欢心,自然,就有机会发表,就能把事情捅到海外张扬。--- 方舟子及其同伙用那类抹黑中国而讨好外媒的手段争取外媒报道方舟子、然后利用国内崇洋心理而把外媒报道拿到国内搞张扬的做法,已经多次了。

方玄昌的第二点描述,简直就跟所谓“方舟子被袭”情节一样。方玄昌的描述是23日报道的,而所谓“方舟子被袭”的故事是数日后发生的。那是偶然的吗?早些时候,方某的关系媒体(特别是南方和北京的报业)发表方舟子的律师彭某的申述,表示为推翻武汉法庭判决而要对肖某采取报复措施的意志,那也是偶然的吗?所谓告破肖案的三个“铁证”都与二方自述不符,是偶然的吗?

目前,终于有些国内媒体开始反思方肖冲突为什么能发展到今日的恶劣程度,其中有些反思明确提出,一些媒体(甚至包括官媒)长期协助方舟子对肖传国搞网媒暴力而把人“逼疯”,是个重要因素。

确实如此,回顾一下:由于肖某披露了方某抄袭剽窃行为,方某怀恨在心、以所谓“打假”为名、在一些关系媒体协助下、用舆论轰炸的暴力手段、对肖某搞起了报复,至今历时八、九年之久。在那么长时间里,全国有多少报刊网媒跟着方舟子对肖传国搞无端指控和造谣诽谤?嘿嘿,多了去了,连北大官员饶毅和科学院院士何祚庥及其老婆都卷入参与方舟子的网媒暴力和舆论轰炸活动,他们甚至连谩骂和侮辱人格的语言文字都用上了。与此同时,那些媒体给肖传国机会申辩和回应了吗?没有,没有给他机会做申辩和回应。

那种“一面倒”的舆论轰炸的媒体暴力,在肖传国身上施行了八、九年之久。面对强大的宣传机器的暴力攻击,无疑,肖传国是个连发言机会几乎都没有的特弱弱者。然而,肖传国不但坚持到现在,赢得几个官司,且在业务上取得美国政府主管部门和国际学界公认的成就发展。可以说,肖传国不但是“不容易”,而且,他也是当今中国知识分子里的一条好汉。

而方舟子为报复而搞的暴力行为呢,不但没有得到批评谴责,反而得到一些媒体的张扬吹捧。那是发生在中国。在美国,方舟子对肖某搞攻击、且为攻击肖某连孩子也不放过的暴力行为,绝对没市场,就是美国的普通居民也能把他的暴力行为放在阳光下而予以制止。发生在Spina-Bifida-Connection的美国居民怒斥方舟子的暴力骚扰的故事,就是个足够生动现实例子。

附议:方舟子及同伙在该网站平台散布的骚扰文字,开始是自称“在美国的专业人士”。可要他们公开透明了,他们又自称是“中国记者”了,且其文字及腔调是典型的“CHINGLISH”(中式英文及中国社会的倚仗官势而压人的腔调,在美国是属于很愚蠢的社会骚扰的言行。这不是本文主题,打住。

  

  

附件一:肖传国在Spina-Bifida-Connection论坛的帖子:
http://spinabifidaconnection.com/showthread.php?t=2022
#1: 04-17-2010, 12:58 PM /Dr. Xiao:
Xiao Procedure: 2 year results in USA, and progress in other countries 。
Dr. Peters, Prof. and Chairman, reported the 2 year results of Xiao Procedure at Beaumont Hospital, USA, a few months ago. They are carrying out the last and 3 year followup recently and the results are even better.
http://www.glsuna.com/PetersGLSUNA2010.pdf
Since the first trial results are very good, NIH awarded $2.3m recently for a multicenter trial of the Xiao Procedure.
http://projectreporter.nih.gov/proje...fm?aid=7696321
http://projectreporter.nih.gov/project_info_description.cfm?aid=7696321
UK is starting Xiao procedure.http://www.xiaouk.com/
Danmark, Finland, Austrialia, India, serbia, Phillipines, South Korea etc, are also doing or going to do Xiao Procedure.


附件二:Spina-Bifida论坛上,美国居民怒斥方舟子的暴力骚扰(摘录)。

#1: 08-19-2010, 05:28 AM/xysergroup(方舟子及其同伙在海外的马甲之一)/:
Beaumont Hospital’s Results of Xiao Procedure Questioned in Journal of Urology
The Beaumont Hospital in Michigan is one of the first American institutes that took up clinical trials of the controversial Xiao Procedure. We have previously questioned their clinical outcomes and their misleading propaganda in our Open Letter of Complaint against the Xiao Procedure.....(太长,后略)。

#2: 08-19-2010, 07:11 AM/Dodger67,Super Moderator/Location: South Africa/:
I have to point out to folks who don't know the history that the "Xyusergroup" has a history of conflict with Dr. Xiao. Keep this in mind when reading their publications. Dr. Xiao is an occasional visitor to this forum and can be contacted directly through private messaging on his profile page.

#5:08-20-2010, 09:57 AM/ainemc,Junior Member,north of ireland/:
I find it very sad that people feel the need to try to sabotage other's work. This man is spending his time and efforts to create a successful procedure to help those with spina bifida. Doing trials will determine if it is successful and I think everybody is aware there will be risks - as there is with any surgery. Our own doctors can determine if the procedure - if it becomes available - is suitable for their individual patients.

#12: 08-24-2010, 02:42 AM/lovemydaughter/:
My daughter had this surgery!
My daughter had this experimental surgery 3+ years ago, performed by Dr. Xaio himself, along with Dr. Kenneth Peters from Beaumont Hospital. While it did not give her bladder continence, she is nearly bowel continent now, which is a HUGE improvement for her. So, before you criticize a procedure you have never had direct experience with, please consider the benefits to those children who have had the procedure. I am curious why you are so opposed to a surgery that has helped several patients so far, including my daughter. I know for a fact that at least 2 or more Beaumont patients are completely bowel and bladder continent as a result of this nerve rerouting surgery. That could have been my daughter! Knowing what I know now, I would allow my daughter to have the surgery all over again. And that is spoken from a parent who has direct experience with this surgery.

#17: 08-24-2010, 07:24 PM/Barb/Site Owner /Location: Denver,CO USA/:
xysergroup~: I would like some information on your group and who exactly you are. I have no issue with what you are posting as long as you continue to be civil but in the interest of fairness to Dr. Xiao who has been upfront about his identity and verified it with me through a third party you need to be willing to put your name out there too.

#19: 08-25-2010, 06:26 AM /xysergroup/:
We are sorry, Barb. We would not like to disclose our identities to the public as we have stated the reason in our Open Letter.
You will surely understand our concern if you read this LA Times article: the Chinese reporter, who organized the investigation on Dr. Xiao and his procedure, was bloodily attacked.
If Dr. Xiao would like to lay criminal defamation charges on us, he can simply ask the law enforcement to easily locate us through our representative, who sent the open letter to US authorities using his real identity.
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