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送交者:  2016年12月09日06:59:06 于 [世界游戏论坛] 发送悄悄话
Shumbath kumar
上午11:16



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 say that how Tibet is a part of China

 

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+Shumbath kumar that will be very long and endless discussions, and no matter what I say, you will not believe it, so what is the point? How about we just concentrate on the reality? Tibet is a part of China now, isn't?

How about we use a statement from UK government in 2008 as prove?:
"Like every other EU member state, and the United States, we regard Tibet as part of the People’s Republic of China."
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will you go to ask the same question to UK? USA? and all EU members?
Shumbath kumar
上午11:33


 
 
With 40,000 Chinese troops in its country, the Tibetan government was forced to sign the"Seventeen Point Agreement" which recognised China's rule in return for promisesto protect Tibet's political system and Tibetan Buddhism.
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Shumbath kumar
上午11:33


 
 
But Buddhism is came from India.
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+Shumbath kumar so ,christian from Israel , your logic is that almost all western countries belong to Israel?
Shumbath kumar
上午11:39


 
 
But China forced Tibet to be part in China
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Shumbath kumar
上午11:42


 
 
Give independence to Tibet let it start it's own country
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+Shumbath kumar well, isn't that the history for most countries in the world?
again, you should go to tell USA, UK and all other EU countries.
Again, this is the reality of the world today .

 
as I said, it is pointless and useless to have this kind discussion, which goes to nowhere.
Shumbath kumar
上午11:47


 
 
India want peace with China.
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before the war in 1962, Mao did not know Indian army well, he said:"we may loss the war, if that happens, we do not blame anyone else but ourselves,"
isn't that the same for Indians?
 X:
 
+Shumbath kumar yearh, right, go to read "Himalayan Blunder" by your Brig.JP..Dalvi
Shumbath kumar
上午11:52


 
 
We are already blamed ourselves because of keeping more concentration on Pakistan borders instead of China borders
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Shumbath kumar
下午12:01


 
 
We thought China is a friend before 1962 and also have slogans that “Bharat Chini Bhai Bhai"(India China are like brothers) but because of 1962 war we understood that any friend can turn into an enemy.
But from now onwards we should not fight with each other. And become friends once again.
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 it is not the key. you guys did not learn, it is wrong to have so called "forward" policy, as I said in the beginning, this is Indian's wishful thinking, no matter what it would fail.
India was not 19th century Britain 
China was not at 1914 anymore.
let's say, you occupied the whole Tibet, could you hold your posts in there? How were you going to support them? do you know you need to go over Himalayan to support them? were India able to do that?
Shumbath kumar
下午12:10


 
 
We don't want Tibet. Himalayas is our border but some Chinese are saying that Arunachal Pradesh and Sikkim are a part of south Tibet we don't want to lose our states. And even today Aksai chin was under the control of China but it is a part of Kashmir which is a part of India
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+Shumbath kumar again, it shows your wishful thinking,
you think Himalaya should be the border, then it must be the border, you never asked if China agrees? If China does not agree, then you would enforce it by force? this was exactly what PM Nehru did before the war, everyone knows the results, as I said, you guys never learn.
China never accepted Himalaya (mcmahon line) is the border,
the reason is very simple, Tawang is at the other side of Himalaya, go to Wikipedia, it says : "Tawang was historically part of Tibet inhabited by the Monpa people. "
see?
This is China's position, Arunachal Pradesh (most of it) was part of Tibet, since Tibet is part of China, therefore, Arunachal Pradesh (historically the part under Tibet control) belongs to China.
I understand there must be some evidence that Arunachal Pradesh (whole) belongs to India.
Tibet was on top of Himalaya, in old times, it was easier for Tibetan army to rush down the mountain to take control the area, it was not easy for people from low land to attack the army on the top of a mountain, there is no base for using Himalaya as border.
The same is true for Aksai chin, sure you have evidence that it belongs to India, however, China also has evidence it belongs to China, simply send army to occupy it would not work for India as it showed in 1962.
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