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Ukraine War Comments from a Military Man 7/25
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Comments from a Military Man – July 25, 2014

Authored by John Kohchang / Edited by S. Naylor



General Thoughts on Ukrainian Army Operations, Conscription

The Ukrainian Army (UA) is fighting on a massive, broad, and changing topography varying from small hamlets/villages to large cities to open steppe. The SDF (Novorossiya Militia) forces cannot defend everywhere, as their numbers are small in-comparison to the UA.

We are seeing the UA advance on many different avenues in an attempt to split SDF’s ability to use artillery in concentrated form against UA positions like we saw here and here.

The 3rd call-up (conscription) proves just how manpower intensive operations of this kind are.  As we have seen in Slavyansk, when the fighting is over, then the policing of the population starts and holding/pacifying that area requires men and material in constant numbers. Remember, the people here voted not to be governed by Kiev; so they are still in essence a hostile populace, which is why the Junta is arresting all men aged 18-55 regardless if they supported the militia or not.

While a number of able-bodied men in Novorussia who voted to separate from Ukraine are not enlisting in the militia and choosing to wait it out, other men are enlisting to fight and defend their right to that vote. But as we see from the evidence from Mariupol and Slavyansk all men who voted are being arrested anyway, and their whereabouts are still unknown.

Situation in the Occupied Mariupol

Notes from a local resident with respect to the situation in the second largest city of DPR [Donetsk People's Republic]:

  1. With respect to the mobilization: there are rumours that the quota for Mariupol was set at 5,000 – 20,000 conscripts (depending on the source), and for the Volodarskiy district – 2,000. And here is the most interesting fact – All! All of my friends who had served in the army in the past are planning to flee to Russia or to join the Militia (as they are the first on the list to be mobilized). In other words, no one wants to fight for Ukraine.
  2. I do not know the situation with the local Ukies who sympathize with the Junta (there are none among my close friends), but there have been no lineups in front of conscription centres.
  3. The local metallurgy is almost finished. One of the plants has gone bankrupt. Two more are about to, due to the Ukie Nazi Guard [National Guard] destroying the Avdeevka Coke-chemical plant. It is not clear what will happen in the future. Without metallurgy, the city will not last long.
  4. Ukies run around town, wave their flags, organize auto-caravans in support of Ukiestan, draw Ukie flags everywhere they find space.
  5. However, normal, sane people are not asleep either – the Ukie flags painted on posts and other constructions are regularly sprayed with red paint (to demonstrate that the flag has been smeared with blood).
  6. It is remarkable that in certain areas the painted Ukie flags remain smeared in “blood” for weeks – i.e. no one erases or repaints them. This is an indication that those who draw them are not local, but that they were sent in to sweep the area and paint their scribbles wherever they could.
  7. Numerous people have “suddenly” disappeared in the city. There is a ton of “Help Us to Locate” and “He Left and Never Returned” ads posted around.
  8. The city is surrounded with Ukie checkpoints that seem in no hurry to leave the city. Looks like Taruta is terrified. At the checkpoints, there are a lot of Ukie-speakers, but there are also some Russian-speakers present.
  9. Lately, we have noticed a lot of vehicles bearing Kiev registration plates (the AA series). This is very strange.
  10. A great number of very strange “refugees” have taken up residence in the city – they sunbathe at the beach, relax in cafes and clubs, drink, entertain themselves, shoot fireworks, enjoy themselves – not a shred of fear, no concern or anxiety. It is as if they are not refugees at all, and, yet, they keep saying that they are from Donetsk or Lugansk. But not everyone is like that. There are also a great many of those who arrived penniless. These refugees are assisted by volunteers, special organization and concerned residents.



Strelkov: “Over the course of yesterday and today our losses near Marinovka-Kozhevnya-Dubrovka totaled approximately 50 men (almost all of them – wounded), 2 tanks, 2 BMPs, and 1 BTR.”

Comment: The Ukie Army can afford large loss of men and material as they have US/NATO behind them, the capacity of the state to enforce conscription; and PMC (Paid Military Contractors, mercenaries) to make up losses in men. The Tanks/IFVs plus equipment can be made up with old CCCP stock still available to Kiev plus the steady arrival of NATO equipment.

The SDF (Novorossia Militia) do not have the men or material (despite the MSM fraudulent claims of Russian aid) and losses to the SDF can not be easily replaced. What shocked me reading one of your posts about how an entire Base with Tanks/IFVs and Equipment was not utilized until a few days ago. That, to me, is disgusting, as some of those battles in Slavyansk could have used the equipment and possibly still be holding out.

The Ukraine military has the advantage of a massive superiority of men and material, but the SDF – when engaging in combat on the ground of their choosing or in ambushes – can usually defeati the UA. But as they have so few men, SDF can not defend on all fronts, so we will continue to see Strekov having to contract his forces and give up ground; these tactical withdrawals are not defeats they are a necessity.

Strelkov: “Losses of the enemy exceed ours several times over. The enemy sustained particularly large losses to its manpower. Heavy casualties were also inflicted on the freshly arrived Nazi-scum [National Guard] Battalion Azov. The enemy is severely demoralized, but continues to latch on to the “corridor”, although the latter has narrowed to 1 kilometre”

Comment: Again, here we see the SDF giving up ground but continuing to attack the MSR(main supply route) to the armored columns of the UA. Cutting or interrupting the flow of logistics and loss of men will, as Strekov states, demoralize the UA Forces.

Strelkov: “Between the settlements of Konstantinovka and Novomikhailovka (to the south-west of the settlement of Marinovka, on the western outskirts of Donetsk), our Saboteur-Reconnaissance Group (“SRG”) “Ptitsa” [Bird], which is part of the 2nd Slavyansk Infantry Battalion, using remotely controlled mines blew up two Kamaz trucks with enemy infantry. Yesterday, the same group destroyed the enemy Grad system that was being transferred to a firing position in order to attack the city”

Comment: This is a perfect example small unit being a force multiplier and hitting out of all proportion to its size. As stated in an earlier report these actions can reduce the fighting ability of the UA considerably.

Strelkov: “The battles for the settlement of Blagodatnoye (to the north of Amvrosievka) continue. Supported by 4 tanks and 4 BTRs, the enemy again attacked the village. In the course of the battle, our maneuverable groups, composed of the personnel of the 4th Regiment of the 3rdSemenovka Infantry Battalion, were able to destroy 1 BTR. The experienced commander of the regiment (“Kozyr” [Trump Card]) used prescribed tactical orders, pursuant to which our infantry avoids defending checkpoints and stationary fortifications when faced with an attack by obviously superior enemy armored forces and forces them into a maneuverable battle directly in an urban area or in a forested zone, paying the most attention to eliminating the enemy’s manpower. Frequently, the enemy reacts very nervously to such a tactical maneuver and retreats.”

Comment: Again as stated in my earlier report, the holding of CPs (Check Points) against these massive UA Tank columns is useless. Instead the SDF are pulling back and maintaining a fluid defense; hitting the columns in prepared ambush of point/choke points where they can use their limited artillery to its full potential. They are also hitting the rear logistics and to draw the UA into built up areas and engage.

General Comments: Stockpiling of material for the defense of Lugansk and Donetsk should be well under way by now for a long drawn out siege, with food/ammo and if possible winter stores.

I must commend the militia on their Intelligence collation it seems top notch (is this the only way the Russians are really assisting?)

It is worrying that talk of American involvement OTG (on the ground) in Ukraine is increasing daily. More elite United States Army troops have arrived in Kiev under strict security: 180 personnel from Rangers and Police ‘Specialist’ units. Many of them have had intensive Ukrainian language study at Fort Benning under Special Operations Forces command.

Most of the newcomers have experience and training in South and Central America, within the framework of military and military-industrial cooperation, as well as in intelligence and Counterintelligence for the United States’ geopolitical interests.

There are also reports that a Dutch Para Battalion (do not know how accurate) has been put on stand-by RTM to Ukraine!

Russia needs to recognize that NATO is not going to stop, they are moving in BATT/SAD (Special action Division) training teams. In the eyes of the MSM, Russia is already supplying the militia, so, in my eyes, the Russians might as well do it with some conviction; still keep it covert, but increase the flow considerably.

We are starting to witness the same effects on the Ukraine public as on the Americans in the Vietnam era. Constant loss of loved ones – not reported by the Junta – are being passed around by word of mouth, but today we have the Internet so losses cannot be hidden effectively. Social media is showing the growing unrest of mothers and families here, here, and here. Do not under-estimate how badly this effects the fighting troops.


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